What Some Actually Good Criticisms of Dawkins and Harris Might Look Like…

David Friedman, an “academic economist” (in quotes only because it seems like there’s an interesting story there) has two posts worth reading, one discussing his reactions to Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris and the next his position that it’s really premature to discount all religion as potential insightful or useful, regardless of whether one agrees with any religion or not.

Not saying that I agree with him in every respect, but I respect where we might disagree a lot more than I do with other critics.

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2 Responses to What Some Actually Good Criticisms of Dawkins and Harris Might Look Like…

  1. Two very interesting posts from Prof. Friedman. I suppose it should come as no surprise that there were comments from both theists and atheists who had their panties in a bunch over what he wrote, which I personally found to be quite reasonable. Above all, he admits to a healthy respect for the margin of error in his own philosophies, something which is often sadly missing in both theists and atheists alike.

    I must say that his criticisms of Dawkins are similar to mine, except that he expresses them much more articulately than I did.

    Thank you for posting this. It does you credit.

    -smith

  2. reXteryaIizer says:

    for NO REASON…… other than to KILL and distroy and take other peoples land and property/.

    Catholic italy MURDERED Thousands of Africans, Egyptians , Greece and others … coastal areas /

    ROME and Catholic Italy had JUST Joined up with Hitler,

    The pope NEVER SAID A WORD as millions of Catholics & Germaany urfered other catholics & NON CATHOLICS.

    Attacking them ….with NO provication./……

    THE POPE WAS not calling for CATHOLICS to stop………

    How much LESS he cared for the Jew….

    The Jews were not the ONLY TARGET on Catholic Italys list.

    IT took 22,000 { twenty two thousand}…..]
    US American tooops DYING, IN ITALY,

    for no reason CATHOLIC ITALY attacked Thousands of Africans, Egyptians , Greece & others …

    Just for NOT joining uP AND becoming a member of the aliance OF Germany & Italy.

    It took 22000 ( TWENTY TWO THOUSAND ) US American MENS lifes in the milityry to BE SLAUGHTERED by Catholic Italy….

    FOr the USA to defeat Catholic Italy….

    It took 22000 ( TWENTY TWO THOUSAND ) US American MENS lifes / ( DEAD

    ~~~~~~~~~Millions of Catholics IN Germany & Italy..

    … murdered Millions of OTHER CATHOLICS & Non Catholics round the planet..

    Simply for not joining up with The Catholic Hitler..

    This was just 70 yrs ago…..

    THE pope never called for Catholic italians to STOP……. He didnt CARE…..

    HERE IN THE USA

    THEY HAD to LOCK up catholics here in the USA..in INTERNMENT CAMPS

    .in WW ll It took 22000 ( TWENTY TWO THOUSAND ) US American MENS lifes to keep them from trying to defend HITLER..

    YOUR Catholics Priest was on the AIR defending HITLER……

    Father Coughlin
    Father Coughlin
    Was a catholic PRIEST who FULLY supported HITLER Here in the USA..

    This man had a radio SHOW …( A talk SHOW )

    http://www.fathercoughlin.org/father-coughlin-anti-semitism.html

    Father Coughlin had a HUGE catholic audience listening..

    GIVING SUPPORT ….. aligning with Catholic Hitler………. a threat to the USA…
    We had to TAKE this MAN of the air SHUT HIS RADIO SHOW completly down..

    In order to get on with the WAR….against Catholic Hitler & Germany…

    Your church has not brought about peace…with MILLIONS of UNITED catholics …..defending peace, love & freedom & good & GOD..
    THEY HAD to LOCK up THOUSANDS of catholics here in the USA, ..in Internment camps.

    http://www.italianhistorical.org/page19a.html

    What is the point of Catholics having a pope… The pope does not call for catholics IN HIS VERY own country …TO stop attacking innocent people

    And commiting violence & murder against peacefull people…
    it’s obvious that Pope Pius XII was …NO …enemy of the Nazis,

    NO MORE than POPE Ratzinger was an enemy to the Nazis…

    Hitler an X convict… & a criminal, charged & convicted of trying to violently overthrow the old German Government wrote a whole book CONDEMNING the JEWS, declaring they should be persecuted & thrown out of society…

    Hitler { in his book [ ~~spoke harshly against the CURRENT religions `actions / of Rome & of Protestants ~as well for being good to the Jews..& for not… CONTINUING ON…to persecute them as viciously & forcefully ..

    as THE CATHOLIC CHURCH…..HAD,,. been Persecuting & murdering the Jews for the last 2000 yrs…..

    ?… Pius XII was another catholic whore, who signed a contract with this JEW HATER

    THE POPE *& vatican SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH catholic HITLER demanding ALL GERMAN bishops SWEAR on the HOLY GOSPELS & ON GOD COMPLETE & LOYALITY to catholic HITLER
    read ART. 16 OF ….Hitler’s Concordat with the Catholic Church (1933) http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_ss33co.htm

    Pope ratzinger was adeticated enough to HITLER to remain a nazi soldier / till the last few months of the war…..

    Today He is deticated enough to continue his hatred & crimes against the innocent

    BY ORDERING RAPE cases be silenced under threat of eXcomunication

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